Curse

Cygnus_Zero · Dec 07, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

So it seems most groups in the new elite area of Nightfall are looking for BIP Necro's. I haven't played the new areas much at all, only checked one of them out and was hit with 250 damage per shot. Me, my heroes and all henchies were dead within 5 seconds. The elite areas are pretty brutal.

Anway, so what kind of BIP Necro would be best to run in there? I haven't played Battery since the first areas of Prophecies. Is it best to run a low HP versus a high HP build? I'm sure most groups are going to want you to case BIP fairly often, so I'm assuming low HP is better.

Anyone have a really good BIP build to run in high level areas?

Any advice and help is greatly appreciated.

ss1986v2 · Dec 07, 2006, 07:49 PM // 19:49

i havent BiP'd in DoA yet, but id assume you would want a low hp battery spec'd into protection for PS. run blood renewal to handle the saccing, bring along PS to keep from being spiked out in one hit, maybe throw in aegis to help chain with another monk. i usually run about 255 health when ever i run a BiP/OoP, but thats so i can take a hit and maybe survive long enough to heal. with PS, maybe drop down to the 180 or 105 area cause even with 255 if PS gets stripped, you are still going down in one hit so it doesnt matter either way. might as well make the saccing easier.

again, i havent done this yet but this is what id try.

Cygnus_Zero · Dec 07, 2006, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Yeah I was thinking about giving 105 a whirl. I saw this 105 build in another thread. How does it look? Again, I havewn't run battery in ages, so I'm kind of out of the loop regarding the latest and greatest bip builds.

Blood Renewal
Blood is Power
Well of Blood
Optional Slot
Healing Breeze
Protective Spirit
Mending
Rebirth

jesh · Dec 08, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I posted very recently about a BiP build. I don't see the point in using a higher HP build because you'll die just about as fast anyways, and with lower HP you can actually get some use out of PS.

Look here.

Anyways, I see absolutely no point in taking Healing Breeze along with Blood Renewal. Just seems retarded to me. Mending I feel the same about. If you're going to maintain an enchant, make it Protective Bond. It's not like you'll reach 11 regen, and you have to spec into healing prayers for it. I would use either Life Siphon or Watchful Spirit, since they don't require any different attributes to be effective.
Well of Blood is fine, but don't bother with it if you have other team members that are using corpses. You'd have to discuss that with them, I suppose.
If you reach max HP regen on a 55 build, you're getting enough HP per second to cast BiP once every second, plus fire off a 2 or 3 quickly when you see that Blood Renewal is about to end.

ShaneOfMach · Dec 09, 2006, 05:37 AM // 05:37

hmm, that build is used for the Deep, where degen conditions such as poison, burning, and bleeding are common, along with enviornmental degeneration.

However, HB/BR are suppose to be used as a cover enchantment for Protective Spirit. Mending is there so that when you cast BR, you automatically have +9 regeneration compared to +6 regeneration.

jesh · Dec 11, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06

Life Siphon > Mending
You can reach max regen with Life Siphon alone, if you're that concerned about degen.

Cygnus_Zero · Dec 11, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Thanks for the build info Jesh. I have some 55 solo experience, so I could probably get the hang of the 55 bip build fairly quickly.

Have you used this in DoA yet though? I was talking to a 55 necro there and he said that because of the massive amount of dmg dished out, you can only 55 when playing in a trapper group. Any truth to this?